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canberrero
27-Nov-2009, 12:53
Según la puplicación Flightglobal, Venezuela habría mostrado interes en el caza chino JF-17 Thunder, presentado al publico en la reciente feria aeronautica de Dubai.

Anexamos a continuación el reportaje en ingles donde se indica esta noticia:



Dubai 09: China eyes international military market


By Siva Govindasamy

China National Aero-Technology Import & Export Corporation (stand W110), which markets China-made military aviation products globally, is in talks with several countries to sell the Hongdu L-15 advanced jet trainer and Chengdu JF-17 fighter.

"We are talking to about five to six countries for each aircraft, and air force pilots from some of them have already flown test flights," says Ma Zhiping, president of CATIC. He is unable to say when the first deals will be signed, but he adds that there will be several "traditional and non-traditional" customers in the coming years.

Ma declines to specify which countries are interested, and would only say that they are mainly in Africa, the Middle East, Asia and South America. At the show, the Chinese delegation had meetings with countries including Iraq, Sudan, Mauritania, the United Arab Emirates, Nigeria, Pakistan and Egypt. Outside the show, they have also met officials from countries including the Philippines, Myanmar, Sri Lanka and Venezuela

"Different countries have different requirements and we have to try to cater to them. This includes operational and financial requirements. We provide very capable aircraft at a very reasonable price compared to what else there is in the market," says Ma.

"One of the biggest problems for many of our customers is financing. Many are developing countries and their payment abilities are limited. We work with the Chinese government in these cases to help them get cheap credit."

For potential JF-17 customers, China is willing to help them set up an assembly line or produce components for the aircraft. This will be similar to the arrangement with Pakistan for the JF-17, and earlier with Egypt for the Hongdu K-8 intermediate jet trainer and light attack aircraft.

"Some of the countries want to develop a defence industry, and we can do with them what we have done with Pakistan and Egypt," says Ma. "We have been selling aircraft for the last 30 years, but it is only in the last 10 that we have really started to make a mark in the international markets.

"Our presence in Dubai has doubled from the last time we were here, and that shows how serious we are. We will make an impact in the market for military products the coming years."



Fuente: http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/11/17/334982/dubai-09-china-eyes-international-military-market.html

Via: http://fuerza-armada-bolivariana.blogspot.com/




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Official designation: Fighter China-1 (FC-1) Xiaolong
PAF designation: Joint Fighter-17 (JF-17) Thunder
Function: Air-superiority; Ground attack
Designer: Chengdu Aircraft Design Institute (611 Institute)
Manufacturer: Chengdu Aircraft Industry (Group) Corporation Ltd. (CAC)
Maiden flight: 25 August 2003
Operator: Pakistani Air Force
Estimated cost: US$15~20 million

The FC-1 (Fighter China-1) Xiaolong is the result of a joint Sino-Pakistani development programme that started in 1999, with each side contributing 50% of the total development cost. Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) of China is the prime contractor for aircraft development and manufacture, while Pakistani Aeronautical Complex (PAC) is the main partner responsible for post-sale service and maintenance, as well as the production of some parts for the aircraft in Pakistan. The aircraft was designed by Chengdu Aircraft Design Institute (611 Institute). Russia supplied its Klimov RD-93 turbofan jet engine for the aircraft.

The initial order was from the Pakistani Air Force (PAF) for eight aircraft, which were delivered in 2007~08. A further order for 42 aircraft worth about US$800 million was signed in March 2009. The aircraft is currently being built by CAC at a rate of 15 aircraft per annum, and this will increase to 30 aircraft per annum later. The total number required by the PAF could be as many as 250, worth US$3~5 billion.

Several other countries also showed interest in the aircraft. Despite previous reports suggesting that the FC-1 would also be equipped by the PLAAF, no order has been reported so far.

Programme

The FC-1 traces its origin to the Super-7 fighter programme, a joint Chengdu-Grumman development project worth US$500 million to upgrade the Chinese J-7 (MiG-21) fighter. Proposed upgrades included removing the fighter's nose air intake and replacing it with a ‘solid’ nose with two lateral air intakes, as well as upgrading the fighter with Western-made avionics and engine. The development agreement was signed in 1986, but the programme was cancelled in 1990, in the wake of the cooling political relations between China and the West, as well as in response to a 40% increase in the cost of the project.

Chengdu continued the Super-7 project independently and re-branded the design as FC-1. In 1999, China and Pakistan concluded a joint development and production agreement to co-develop the FC-1 fighter. Under the agreement, the programme was to be jointly funded by the China Aviation Import and Export Corporation (CATIC) and Pakistan, each with 50% stake of the joint venture. The total cost of the development programme was estimated to be US$150 million. Russian Mikoyan Aero-Science Production Group (MASPG) reportedly provided some assistance in the development of the aircraft

The first prototype of the FC-1 rolled out on 31 May 2003, and the aircraft made its maiden flight successfully on 25 August. A total of three flying prototypes were developed, along with a static prototype. Flight trial of the aircraft completed in 2005 and the aircraft entered production in June 2006.


JF-17 of the Pakistani Air Force (Chinese Military Aviation)

In March 2007, CAC delivered two JF-17 fighters (#101, #102) to the PAF on 12 March 2007. They made their debut on 23 March during a fly-past as part of the Pakistan Day military parade in Islamabad. A further six aircraft were delivered to the PAF in 2008. Under the joint development agreement, the PAF will acquire up to 250 examples of the fighter in several batches, with the avionics systems gradually upgraded in later batches. Some production will also be carried out by PAC in Pakistan, including the manufacture of the aircraft’s wings and fin.

CAC and CATIC are also actively marketing the FC-1 to other developing countries as a low-cost replacement for the Northrop F-5 Tiger, Dassault Mirage III/5, Shenyang J-6, MiG-21/F-7 Fishbed, and Nanchang Q-5. Potential customers could include Bangladesh, Iran, Egypt and Nigeria.

Design

The FC-1 adopts a rather conventional aerodynamic layout, with mid-mounted wings, lateral air intakes, single-frame bubble cockpit canopy, and two under-belly stabilising fins. The drag chute bay is located at the root of the rudder. An electronic equipment pod is mounted on the tip of the rudder. The formal production variant of the FC-1 features a diffuser supersonic inlet (DSI) similar to those of the U.S. F-35 fighter for better air-intake efficiency.

Radar

The JF-17s in service with the PAF are fitted with an Italian Grifo S-7 multi-track, multi-mode, pulse Doppler radar radar. The radar has 25 working modes and a non-break-down time of 200 hours, and is capable of “look-down, shoot-down”, as well as for ground strike abilities. Alternatively, the aircraft can be fitted with the Thales RC400, GEC Marconi Blue Hawk, Russian Phazotron Zemchug/Kopyo, and Chinese indigenous KLJ-7 developed by Nanjing Research Institute of Electronics Technology (NRIET).

Cockpit and Avionics Systems


The FC-1 / JF-17 features a ‘glass cockpit’ with three large multifunctional displays (Chinese Internet)

The FC-1’s avionics architecture is supported by two mission computers based on Multi-Bus System (MIL-STD-1553B). The heart of the system is a 32-bit Weapon and Mission management Computer (WMMC) which performs mission computations, flight management, reconfiguration / redundancy management and in-flight system self-test.

Navigation -- Hybrid inertial navigation system (INS) and global positioning system (GPS);
Communications -- Independent data link with two Independent wide-band radios with anti-jamming capabilities;
Electronic warfare (EW) -- Self production jammer, missile approach warning system, radar warning receiver (RWR), chaff & flare dispenser;
Identification of Friend and foe (IFF) -- IFF interrogator for target verification at the BVR range;
‘Glass’ cockpit -- Three large Multifunction Colour Displays (MFD) and smart Heads-Up Display (HUD) with built-in symbol generation capability; HOTAS;
Targeting -- Laser Designator and Targeting Pod (LDTP) for target illumination and detection with day/ night capabilities;
Weapons

Fixed weapon includes a GSh-23 dual-barrel 23mm cannon. Alternatively the aircraft can be fitted with a GSh-30 dual-30mm cannon. There are 7 stores stations, including one under the fuselage, 4 under the wings, and 2 wingtip mounted, with up to 3,700kg weapon payload.

The aircraft is callable of ‘beyond-visual-range’ (BVR) attack capability with the PL-12/SD-10 active radar-homing medium-range air-to-air missile (MRAAM) developed by China Leihua Electronic Technology Research Institute (LETRI, also known as 607 Institute). The aircraft also carries two short-range AAMs on its wingtip-mounted launch rails. The options include U.S. AIM-9P and Chinese PL-7, PL-8, and PL-9.

The aircraft can carry a special pod allowing day/night delivery of laser-guided weapons. In addition, it can also carry unguided weapons such as low-drag general-purpose (LDGP) bombs and unguided rocket launchers.

Engine

The FC-1/JF-17 is powered by a Russian-made Klimov RD-93 turbofan jet engine rated 49.4kN dry or 84.4kN with afterburning. The RD-93 is a derivation of the RD-33 used by the MiG-29 fighter. In 2007, China signed a contract with Russia to supply 150 RD-93 engines for the JF-17 production.

Liyang Aero Engine Corporation in Guizhou is reportedly developing an indigenous turbofan engine designated WS-13 (or Tianshan-21) as an alterative powerplant option for the FC-1. The engine was said to have been based on the RD-93 design with some modifications.

Specifications

Crew: One
Length: 14m
Wingspan: 8.5m (without wingtip missiles)
Wing area: 24.4m2
Height: 5.10m
Empty weight: 6,411kg
Loaded weight: 9,100kg (without two wingtip missiles)
Take-off weight: (normal) 9,100kg; (maximum) 12,700kg
Fuel capacity: 2,300kg
In-flight refuelling: No
Weapon payload: 3,700kg
Powerplant: 1X Russian RD-93 turbofan, rated at 49.4kN dry or 84.4kN with afterburning
Max level speed: Mach 1.6~1.8 (high altitude)
Max climb rate: N/A
Service ceiling: 16,700m
Ferry range: 3,000km
Combat radius: 1,350km
G limit: -3 ~ +8.5
Fixed weapon: 23mm or 30mm single-barrel cannon
External hardpoints: Seven (1 under the fuselage centerline; 4 under the wings; 2 on the wingtips)

Last update: 13 March 2009

Fuente: http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/fighter/fc1.asp

Rommel
30-Nov-2009, 18:41
¿Cuál es la justificación para que Venezuela siga de compras? Los sistemas de armas que tiene hoy en día, le dan una fuerza más que respetable a nivel sudamericano. ¿Será que está pensando seriamente en buscar un conflicto con Colombia?

Saludos,

Rommel

canberrero
02-Dec-2009, 01:03
¿Cuál es la justificación para que Venezuela siga de compras? Los sistemas de armas que tiene hoy en día, le dan una fuerza más que respetable a nivel sudamericano. ¿Será que está pensando seriamente en buscar un conflicto con Colombia?

Saludos,

Rommel


Sus características superan con creces a los vetustos F-5, pero evidentemente podrían ser su reemplazo…

El JF-17 es clasificado como caza ligero, pero puede usar misiles de medio alcance PL-12 de guía radar y, por supuesto, misiles de corto alcance PL-9 de guía IR. Ambos bastante eficaces y modernos.

Algo también novedoso para un caza ligero es que tiene integrado internamente un sistema de autoprotección sofisticado consistente en sistemas de alerta RWR con una buena base de datos de amenazas, detectores de disparo de misiles dos bandas (IR y UV), junto a un equipo de ESM y ECM bastante moderno.

Interesante aeronave para un abanico tan restringido de posibilidades.



Sobre la pregunta....y en mi humilde opinión…creo que expresa su punto de vista y realmente no desearía entrar en discusiones estériles que desviarían el tema central…respeto su posición, aunque no vendría mal hacer lectura conciente de las siguientes tablas sobre gastos militares en LA y ubicar a cada quien en el lugar que realmente le corresponda (Ambos según informe del Banco Mundial).



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canberrero
02-Dec-2009, 16:54
Siguiendo con el tema........

Tablas comparativas y muchas gráficas vs. sistemas actuales próximos al retiro....interesantes resultados.....

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HernanSCL
03-Dec-2009, 11:39
ey, y ese FC-1 vendría a ser el reemplazo de los F-5?

¿Por que no mejor evalúan el J-10 y así reemplazan tanto a los F-5 como a los F-16 por una sola plataforma multirrol?


Me refiero a tener solo 2 lineas logísticas en combate:

SU-30MKV caza pesado de largo alcance - J-10 cazabombardero ligero monomotor.


1 linea para entrenamiento avanzado:

K-8 Kakakorum


1 linea para entrenamiento básico:

Aermacchi SF-260EV


Saludos

canberrero
03-Dec-2009, 20:59
Lastima que el J-10 y el JH-7A no tengan una plataforma o programa de exportación por los momentos...a menos de que se concrete una venta importante a Irán y justifique esa actividad.

Todo lo contrario sucede con el FC-1/JF-17 China/Pakistán y ofrecido como sustituto a los consecuentes o nuevos clientes chinos…lo que garantiza el sustento de una línea de producción…aparentemente China pretende reemplazar los Q-5 con el FC-1 en su versión Q-7.

El L-11 es un entrenador medio. La versión del L-11 de entrenamiento y ataque ligero se denomina JL-8 …ambos versiones son autóctonas chinas...(Solo la versión pakistaní y sus derivados se les denomina K-8 ) el avanzado será el L-15. Este último no termina de salir del cronograma de pruebas. El prototipo del JL-15 (Entrenamiento y ataque) todavía no comienza la fase de pruebas con armamento real y el Q-8 (JL-15 Monoplaza) todavía esta en el tablero de dibujo…estos ejemplares deberían entrar en operación en el 2012 según el cronograma (si no hay retrasos)….particularmente pienso que no vale la pena esperar mas y una decisión alterna inmediata debería tomarse.

Sobre los SF-260...sin comentarios...particularmente me haría de una buena flota de CJ-6 ….ya que también le falta un tiempo para que entre en operación el nuevo CJ-7.

Son comentarios personales...solo eso.

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Algunas sutiles diferencias externas del L-11/JL-8 respecto al K-8 se aprecian en esta ilustración. Los cambios importantes son internos.

Nota: Un comentario adicional...es Su-30MK2 y no MKV

canberrero
06-Dec-2009, 22:24
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Cordiales saludos!!...