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    Exacto aqui creo q se piensa lo mismo para el reemplazo de nuestros Mirages...
    Primun Non Nociere... En Medicina Trabajamos con Cero de Constantes y un Infinito de Variables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAVERICK
    Exacto aqui creo q se piensa lo mismo para el reemplazo de nuestros Mirages...
    Bueno.. Rafale es una UTIMA nave, con tecnologia de puenta


    El forun de RAFALE en las FA brasileñas:
    http://www.perudefensa.com/viewtopic.php?t=1556

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    SE ESTRELLA UN AVION MIRAGE EN ARGELIA.

    08-12-2006
    El Ministerio de Defensa francés informó que mientras realizaba un vuelo doméstico sobre Chad un avión Mirage F1 francés se estrelló en el nordeste de Argelia el miércoles. El piloto logro eyectarse con seguridad y aterrizó ileso mientras que el aparato se estrellaba en una zona deshabitada al sur de la ciudad de Constantina en Argelia. Tres aviones de combate Mirage F1 formaban la escolta de un avión de transporte Boeing C-135 desde Chad a Francia cuando ocurrió el accidente. El ministerio de defensa dijo que las causas del accidente seguían siendo confusas y una investigación sería llevada a cabo para determinarlas. Mientras tanto, París está defendiendo su decisión de enviar los aviones de combate contra as fuerzas rebeldes de la República Centroafricana.
    saludos,

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    Diculpen por el off topic pero cual les parece mejor el Rafale o el typhoon?, o no cabe comparacion por roles distintos?, soy neofito en esto....

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    polocox, de hecho ambos cumplen el mismo rol, solo que el Rafale, aparte tiene una version naval, yademas esta hecho para las necesidades de Francia, en cambio el Typhoon es un avion diseñado para la OTAN, y fabricado por Alemania, Inglaterra, España e Italia.
    la experiencia sólo sirve si de ella se obtienen las conclusiones adecuadas

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    gracias por tu respuesta adrian, muy claro para mi,

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    Un amigo me paso este articulo, lo posteo por estar relacionado.

    From Aviation Week:
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    French Rafale Heading to Afghanistan

    Mar 11, 2007
    By Robert Wall


    French Rafale strike fighters will be operational in Afghanistan within days, after undergoing a crash course to integrate precision-guided bombs and other wartime enhancements.

    Both the French air force and navy are participating in the surge of combat capability, aimed at bolstering NATO's International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan.

    The French air force was to deploy three F2 standard Rafales late last week to Dushanbe, Tajikistan, where they will be primarily based, although excursions to Kabul are possible. The aircraft should be operational within days of arrival and remain there about four months, says a senior air force officer planning the deployment. It is the first operational mission since the air force declared Rafale operational last year.

    The navy will also have Rafales in the F2 standard in the region of operations. The deployment represents the first of the type for the navy, which is only starting to field this version.

    Last week, three F2s were sent to join the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle, which was already deployed near the Horn of Africa. The ship is now heading close to Afghanistan, with Rafale operations likely to commence mid-month, says a senior navy aviator. The de Gaulle will operate a mix of Rafales, with the three F2s supplemented by nine early-model F1s, which have only an air-to-air capability and a different processor.

    Although much of the focus of the French military activity since December has been to give the fighter the ability to drop laser-guided bombs, other enhancements have also been undertaken more quietly. For instance, the threat libraries have been upgraded to properly reflect what the Spectra self-protection system is likely to encounter, says French air force Brig. Gen. Eric Rouzaud, head of the CEAM aviation development and test center. The threat libraries are similar for the two services, but the naval version carries additional information to distinguish different types of maritime radars.

    But without the weapons upgrade, which was formally launched in mid-December when aircraft prime contract Dassault Aviation began its work on the effort, the deployment would not have taken place. French government officials raised the prospect of the air force mission in November.

    Flight trials to pave the way for the deployment involved seven weapon releases from air force Rafales and another five from naval versions. The integration went smoothly, although some buffet issues were encountered, says a development officer.

    The focus of the development activity was integrating the 611-lb. GBU-12 (Paveway II) and 720-lb. GBU-22 (Paveway III) laser-guided bombs on the aircraft. The latter has larger control surface and offers more range and maneuverability, but French military officials expect to use both.

    A standard load-out when operating from Dushanbe or the carrier will be three drop tanks (with 2,000 or 1,200 liters [528 or 317 gal.] of fuel) and three bombs under each wing, in addition to four Mica air-to-air missiles (both the radar and infrared seeker models). At this point, the military has not cleared the use of mixed loads.

    Development work also is ongoing to clear the operational use of the 30-mm. GIAT 791B cannon. Those efforts have encountered some problems, including vibration, says a senior officer monitoring the progress. Nevertheless, he holds out hope the issues can be resolved, so that the weapon can be employed later in the deployment. Fighter aircraft have frequently had to resort to strafing runs to assist ground forces, particularly special operations units, because those are often in such close contact with Taliban forces that the use of bombs is deemed too dangerous.

    The rapid-response program for the Rafales, however, leaves the strike fighter largely dependent on other aircraft. The Rafale itself is not yet fitted with its Damocles laser-designator pod, so someone else has to provide the targeting information. Operational plans for the air force foresee the use of Rafales in conjunction with Mirage 2000Ds, three of which are also in Dushanbe. They will perform the lasing, with the Rafales delivering ordnance. For the navy, the so-called buddy-lasing duties will be performed by Super Entendards. Ground forces can also be used for target designation.

    Next in the development plan for Rafale is the addition of further weapons. For instance, although the Scalp cruise missile has been cleared for air force use, mission-planning equipment isn't up to standard yet for its operational employment. Additionally, later this year the service hopes to fully field the inertial navigation system/global positioning system (INS/GPS)-guided AASM (armament air-sol modulaire) air-to-ground weapon. Next year or in 2009, the air force also expects to field the EP2 Enhanced Paveway, which marries INS/GPS and laser guidance. Those features will phase in as the F3 standard Rafale becomes operational next year.

    Another round of upgrades looms soon after, as elements of the post-F3 upgrade package materialize. It includes, most notably, an active electronically scanned array antenna for the Rafale radar, which should enter development testing in 2010 for fielding in 2012. Enhancements to the optical sight system and integration of a data modem are also in the cards.

    Notionally, military officials are starting to discuss an F4 standard, while stressing that nothing concrete is planned right now. That configuration would be targeted for fielding around 2015-18. At the moment, it serves largely as a brainstorming function, says one project official.

    It would likely be a large overhaul, on the scale of the shift from F1 to F2, which changed out the processing backbone of the fighter. The navy program official notes that around that time, the current processing capability will likely be headed toward its maximum and will need to be replaced. The F4 is being likened to the Mid-Life Upgrade program that the F-16 fleet has undergone.

    Also on the agenda are subsystem enhancements and new weapons, including whether to add a suppression of enemy air defense (SEAD) capability, electronic attack functions or a towed-decoy for self-protection. Right now, the latter is low on the priority list and the penalty in terms of loss of maneuverability is not seen as compensating for the added protection. Interest in a decided SEAD capability is relatively mild, as operational planners realize the combination of Spectra's geolocation capability and the coming AASM bomb will give them an ability not just to suppress, but to destroy radar sites.
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    Entonces, el director de proyectos de Dassault Aviation va a recibir una reprimenda por esto o que?

    Saludos


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    El Rafael es un gran avión, un diseño exquisito, pero caro, como una buena P U T A. Mi sueño sería verlos con los colores FAP.

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    Saludos,

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