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    Quote Originally Posted by naval968 View Post
    Gracias amigos, aun esta todo en el plano de la conversacion ( aunque se que esta un pelin mas alla de eso, esperemos a ver que sucede).

    Si bien algunas adquisiciones no se adecuarian a la pauperrima realidad presupuestal ( sobre todo de la Fuerza Aerea y de la Armada Nacional), hay algunos detalles estrategicos/politicos que no se pueden dejar pasar por alto si se quiere entender el porque de estas compras.

    Cuando decimos S-3 Viking, SH-3D Sea King, Leo-1 ( Chile quizas? o mas de Europa?) F-122 y F-5 , la pregunta inmediata es con que dinero se compra? con que dinero se mantiene? con que dinero se opera?

    La respuesta es una sola, con el dinero que genera la voluntad politica.

    Basicamente se han dado 3 acontecimientos que han hecho cambiar a esta esquiva ( con el area defensa) voluntad politica nacional, estos son:

    1-Se incrementa a 350 millas nauticas la ZEE, en contrapartida se incrementa tambien el aerea de responsabilidad ( SAR) en el Atlantico.

    2-Se han encontrado en aguas jurisdiccionales reservorios de gas y petroleo.
    (obviamente sujetos a todo tipo de estudio de factibilidad, pero 100% de certeza de su existencia)

    3-El lamentable problema que tenemos con Argentina a raiz de la instalacion de una procesadora de pasta de celulosa en el Rio Uruguay.

    Los puntos 1 y 2, son intereses estrategicos nacionales, y obligan a erogar dineros extras en su defensa, proteccion, conservacion y explotacion, parte de esos recursos seran necesariamente destinados a la defensa de los mismos.

    El punto 3, el unico realmente politico de los 3 puntos desarrollados, no refiere a un sentimiento belicista del Estado uruguayo, ni a la pretension de querer equiparar potencialidades entre un pais 15 veces mas extenso territorialmente que el Uruguay, y con 10 veces mas poblacion, sino sencillamente a la toma de conciencia nacional ( a nivel politico) de que Uruguay necesita elementos materiales con los cuales poder disuadir ( llegado el caso) a su vecino.

    La Fuerza Aerea Uruguaya ha venido desarrollando en conjuncion con el Gobierno Nacional un plan ordenado y escalonado de modernizacion planificada y ajustada a sus necesidades como Fuerza.

    Asi Uruguay radariza completamente el territorio con la adquisicion de dos radares Lanza 3D de ultima generacion, uno de ellos de estricto uso militar.

    Por esas epocas, la FAU comienza una nueva relacion con la Fuerza Aerea de Chile, entre otras cosas los up grade de la flota de C-130 uruguayos se hacen en ENAER, al igual que los over haull de los A-37 y ultimamente y de acuerdo a los movimientos realizados, sospecho que la instruccion avanzada de los futuros pilotos del futuro caza supersonico de la FAU se hara en Chile.

    El Ejercito Nacional, con un poco mas de suerte que las demas armas ( ya que ha recibido mucho material en parte de pago de deuda que mantenia Rusia con Uruguay) ha renovado toda su flota de camiones, cuenta con un total de 450 camiones URAL 6x6 , 50 vehiculos Vodnik de muy buena aceptacion, entre otros ( asi como la adquisicion de una veintena de M-113 entre otras cosas), ahora trabaja en la compra de un numero indeterminado de tanques ( seguramente no mas de 50) casi con seguridad seran Leo-1, que para el contexto local sus bocas de 105 mm son mas que suficientes, tambien esta abocado a la compra de mas ingenios anti tanque, con vistas a renovar su parque de misiles Milan.

    Ademas se debe mencionar la total sustitucion de los antiguos fusiles FAL, el suplantante elegido fue el Steyr AUG, ya han llegado al pais 7500 unidades.

    La Armada por su parte, gasto mucho de su presupuesto durante 4 años realizando la prospeccion y estudio del subsuelo marino, requerimiento este necesario si es que Uruguay deseaba ver su ZEE extendida a 350 millas, la mision se cumplio con exito, la Armada recibe en el entre tiempo un barco de 4000 toneladas , y varios buques de servicio, la Aviacion Naval por su partye se vio reforzada con 6 Bo-105 ex Luftwaffe.

    Alemania es otro de los nuevos apoyos de Uruguay en materia de defensa, el ofrecimiento de material aleman para las 3 armas es continuo, con garantias de repuestos y excelente tratamiento de precios.

    Como decia antes, nuevos y buenos vientos en materia de defensa estan soplando en Uruguay.

    saludos
    Aqui que yo sepa solo se conservarán 100 Leopard 1 modernizados en FAMAE con nuevos sistemas de ASELSAN electronics, y nacionales (DESA). Se fueron 30 Leopard 1V a Ecuador por lo que de los 220 estimados que habian quedan aproximadamente 50 para la venta si descontamos alrededor de 40 menos entre vehículos convertidos de Ingenieros, de instrucción y dados de baja para spares.



    Saludos a todos

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    Hola Hernan, francamente no puedo afirmar ni desmentir si el proveedor va a ser Chile.

    Pero me parceria lo mas logico, desde el momento que varios integrantes de Ejercito uruguayo han tenido oportunidad de inspeccionar el material chileno de marras, y aqui mas que tener un dato hay que ser intuitivo, una cosa es visitar una unidad militar, otra muy diferente es "inspeccionar" el material de dicha unidad, por lo que deduzco, que al menos hay una intencion de compra, o que se baraja la opcion Leo-1 chilenos como una opcion de adquisicion, sino, no tendria ningun sentido el tema de la inspeccion.

    Tengo entendido que lo que se ha visto provoco muy buena impresion en los "inspectores".

    Respecto de los Leo-1 1V ecuatorianos, tienes algun dato del negocio? se vendieron? cedieron? precio de amigos? menos de U$ 100.000 la unidad?

    saludos
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    Triste mas que interesante jpor.

    Triste porque aparentemente hay vinculaciones politicas terribles en este asunto, la izquierda ambiciosa ha estado cubriendo todas las bases si se diera el caso de una derrota ( en el balotaje para ellos) en las urnas.

    Muy triste.

    saludos
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    Diputados conceden a Defensa seis millones de euros para nuevo radar



    05/11/2009 (Infodefensa.com) Montevideo - La Cámara de Diputados aprobó en sesión extraordinaria la habilitación al Ministerio de Defensa Nacional a contraer un préstamo por seis millones de euros con el Banco de la República Oriental del Uruguay que serán utilizados para la compra de un nuevo sistema de control de tránsito aéreo.

    Dicho sistema incluye un nuevo radar, comunicaciones para el control de tránsito aéreo y sistemas asociados para el Aeropuerto Internacional de Carrasco.

    La ley fundamental que la adquisición del nuevo equipamiento tiene siete objetivos esenciales. Se pretende asegurar el suministro de información radar al Centro de Tránsito Aéreo por un plazo mínimo de 10 años, reducir los costos de mantenimiento y mejorar la calidad de la presentación del radar en el sistema de control aéreo.

    Se procura mejorar las comunicaciones de rango extendido entre los controladores y aeronaves en vuelo, permitir la visualización de información meteorológica en las consolas y dotar de medios de gestión más modernos para la recaudación vinculada con los servicios y actividades aeronáuticas. Se persigue el objetivo de la migración de los servicios tecnológicos a modalidades digitales.

    "La incorporación de sensores radares de la más reciente tecnología impactará positivamente en la seguridad operacional del transporte aéreo y, por lo tanto, en el cumplimiento de los compromisos asumidos por el Estado uruguayo ante organismos internacionales en la materia", valora la ley en su exposición de motivos.

    Saludos a todos

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    Default Sobre la defensa de Uruguay, un artìculo completo

    Uruguay’s Armed Forces – Maintaining Effectiveness on a Budget


    Sanjay Badri-Maharaj
    Dr. Sanjay Badri-Maharaj is an independent defence analyst and attorney-at-law based in Trinidad and Tobago. He holds a PhD on India's nuclear weapons programme and an MA from the Department of War Studies, Kings College London. He has served as a consultant to the Trinidad and Tobago Ministry of National Security.
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    June 20, 2017
    Uruguay, a small nation of some 176,215 square kilometre with a population of a mere 3,493,000, is a relatively prosperous country with a high per capita income of some USD 16,000 per annum in nominal terms.1 The country is a stable, liberal democracy with strong democratic institutions and one of the least politicised military establishments in the region. However, even that military felt itself compelled to usurp political power in 1973 after the outbreak of urban terrorism, perpetrated by the Tupamaro guerrillas which had its roots among the disillusioned middle-class youth adversely affected by a declining economic situation.2De facto military rule through civilian puppet governments lasted until 1984 when a peaceful transition of power took place. Since then, the military has remained apolitical, the guerrillas being successfully contained.

    Nowadays, the country’s armed forces are perhaps best known for being among the highest – if not the highest – per capita contributors to United Nations Peacekeeping Forces.3 However, the country’s military, which is almost unique among the larger South American militaries in being composed entirely of volunteers, has been a pioneer of inclusive policies. Not only has discrimination against the enlistment of homosexuals been eliminated, but the recruitment of women has also been encouraged, to the extent that 25 per cent of the country’s armed forces are female with no restriction on their serving in combat roles.4 Yet, despite these progressive social policies, the Uruguayan armed forces, like so many in the region, have had to struggle to maintain combat capabilities in the face of limited budgets which hover around 1.9 to 2.5 per cent of GDP.5

    Fortunately, Uruguay faces neither an external threat nor any internal unrest that is beyond the ability of the 27,000 strong National Police to handle. To date, despite some incidents of corruption, the country’s law-enforcement and legal institutions have shown themselves equal to the task.6 However, the country does face the challenge posed by narco-traffickers who make use of Montevideo’s port as well as the country’s porous borders with Argentina and Brazil. While not a grower of cocaine, Uruguay is a trans-shipment hub and its rate of cocaine consumption is the third highest in the region after Chile and Argentina.7 Though the country’s National Police have thus far performed well, the armed forces have added their expertise to the counter-narcotics effort, with the Air Force in particular playing an important role in airspace monitoring.

    The Uruguayan Army

    Uruguay’s army has some 14,000 personnel and, compared to that of neighbouring Paraguay, is heavily mechanised. Organised into four “divisions” (in reality, brigade sized formations), the army is relatively well-equipped compared to the other two services and has been able to sustain its combat capabilities with infusions of overhauled second-hand systems from a variety of sources reflecting a deliberate effort to diversify the sources of weapons supply.

    The country is divided into four Military Regions, each garrisoned by a nominal division – 1st Division HQ Montevideo, 2nd Division HQ San Jose, 3rd Division HQ Tacuarembo and 4th Division HQ Minas – and each of which consists of a single infantry brigade of three battalions, one or more cavalry regiments, an artillery group and supporting engineering, medical and logistical elements.8 This basic organisational structure has remained unchanged since the 1980s.

    In cavalry regiments, pride of place is occupied by a force of 15 Israeli T-55 rebuilds, known as the Ti-67 Tiran, acquired in 1997. The Tiran is a modification of captured T-55 tanks and is equipped with 105 mm L7 main guns and updated fire control systems. These vehicles are augmented by a force of 47 locally and Brazilian modernized M-41 Walker Bulldog light tanks, re-equipped with 90 mm guns.9 A batch of 25 Brazilian M-41s was acquired in 2013 to replace an ageing force of M-24 Chaffee light tanks which had been delivered in 1957.10

    While neither the Ti-67s nor the M-41s are new vehicles, they present Uruguay with a potent armoured force, augmented by a force of EE-9 Cascavel armoured cars and a substantial fleet of armoured personnel carriers (APCs) which include 15 BMP-1s obtained from the Czech Republic, 140 MOWAG Piranhas from Canada and 130 Czech OT-93s operating alongside older M113s and Condor 1 APCs.

    Artillery support is modest, with four dozen M101 105 mm howitzers acquired from the Republic of Korea in 1981 together with eight M114 155 mm howitzers. These assets are augmented by eight M102 105 mm howitzers acquired in 1972 and six 2S1 Gvodzika 122 mm self-propelled howitzers purchased from the Czech Republic in 1998. Anti-aircraft capability is even more modest with only fourteen 20 mm guns in service, although eight twin TCM-20 anti-aircraft guns are radar directed with Elta M-2016 radars.11

    The Uruguayan Navy

    Uruguay’s Navy has approximately 5,700 personnel and operates a fleet of second-hand vessels that will soon be in dire need of either major overhauls or replacement. The most “modern” assets, delivered in 2008, are two class frigates obtained from Portugal. These ships – ROU 01 Uruguay (ex-Comandante João Belo) and ROU 02 Comandante Pedro Campbell (ex-Comandante Sacadura Cabral) – had entered Portuguese service in 1967 and 1969, respectively, making the vessels nearly 50 years old at present.12 These vessels replaced three Commandant Rivière class vessels obtained from France between 1988 and 1991. But they had relatively short lives in Uruguayan service owing to chronic serviceability problems. It is of interest to note that the MM.38 Exocet missiles, normally fitted to the João Belo class while in Portuguese service, do not appear to have been transferred to Uruguay.

    That these vessels are the most modern in the Uruguayan fleet is indicative of the vintage of the rest of the navy. Three Kondor-II-class minesweepers, formerly of the former East German Navy, and two Cape-class patrol boats, formerly of the US Coast Guard, round out the navy’s modest combat assets, serving alongside a small force of survey ships, river patrol craft and search and rescue vessels.13

    Uruguay’s maritime patrol assets have declined in quality and quantity since the decommissioning of its fleet of Grumman S-2G Tracker anti-submarine aircraft in 2001. Now, two Beechcraft B-200T Super King Air fill the maritime patrol role, augmented by a BAE Systems Jetstream T2 and five helicopters.14 The Uruguayan air force supplements these assets with four CASA C-212-200M for maritime patrol and search and rescue.

    The Uruguayan Air Force

    The 3000 strong Uruguayan Air Force (FAU) is organised into three Air Brigades:

    Air Brigade I
    No. 3 Squadron (Transport)
    No. 5 Squadron (Helicopters)
    Air Brigade II
    No. 1 Squadron (Attack)
    No. 2 Squadron (Fighters)
    The Advanced Training Squadron
    Air Brigade III
    No. 7 Squadron (Observation & Liaison)

    As can be seen, Nos. 3, 5 and 7 Squadrons operate the transport (6 aircraft), helicopters (12), and observation and liaison (11) assets of the force. Twelve Aermacchi SF-260 training aircraft fulfil the basic training role. Combat assets, such as they are, are concentrated in the three squadrons of Air Brigade II. These were once reasonably potent when the FAU operated Lockheed F-80, T-33 and Cessna A-37 jet aircraft.15

    However, over the past 36 years, the Argentine FMA IA.58 Pucara spearheaded the FAU, with six aircraft on strength with No. 1 Squadron (Attack). The type served with distinction as a potent counter to narcotics trafficking flights. Unfortunately, the Pucara became increasingly difficult to maintain and on March 17, 2017, the type was retired from service, effectively halving the dedicated combat assets of the force.16 The aircraft was highly regarded in FAU service and no replacement is in sight.17

    A force of up to 12 Cessna A-37s in No. 2 Squadron (Fighters) forms the core of the FAU combat force, augmented by five weapons-capable Pilatus PC-7 combat capable training aircraft with the Advanced Training Squadron.18 The former type has been reinforced by replacement aircraft and spares from Ecuador to keep the squadron at a sustainable level.19
    Despite the infusion of aircraft and components from Ecuador, spares problems and maintenance issues also affect the A-37s, with the loss of an aircraft in August 2016.20 Protestations from the FAU as to the airworthiness of the aircraft did little to ease concerns.21 This is especially true of the ejection seats used on the aircraft, and the FAU sought the assistance of Martin-Baker’s Argentine subsidiary to replace the ejection seats.22 In addition, the FAU has contracted with ENAER of Chile to repair the engines of the type in the hopes of prolonging the service life of the aircraft.23

    Yet, the FAU is only prolonging the inevitable. Repairing ageing assets may be practical in the short-term, but it is inevitable that replacements for the A-37 and the now-decommissioned Pucara need to be found. China has offered its Hongdu L-15 advanced trainer for the role and the FAU has expressed interest in the type.24 However, no contracts have been signed and it is questionable as to whether the Uruguayan government will make the necessary funds available to facilitate such a purchase. Uruguay had previously shown interest in procuring 10 former Swiss-Air Force Northrop F-5E/Fs, but no deal for the same has materialised and the A-37s soldier on with numbers set to decrease as the years progress.

    Conclusion

    Uruguay has enjoyed a period of both political and relative economic stability for a number of decades since the transition to civilian rule in 1984. However, this has never translated into lavish budgets for the armed forces. Uruguay maintains what is effectively an arsenal of second-hand weapons systems. While undoubtedly more modern than the antiquated assets of neighbouring Paraguay, Uruguay’s ageing inventory will inevitably pose problems as the military seeks to maintain a core level of capability within the budgetary constraints laid down by the government. Uruguay’s army is in considerably better shape than either the Air Force or the Navy, with both the latter services facing the spectre of increasing maintenance burdens as their assets age. To date, Uruguay has been able to preserve the combat capability of its armed forces despite budgetary restrictions. It remains to be seen whether this can continue without substantial infusions of money for capital acquisitions.

    Views expressed are of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of the IDSA or of the Government of India.

    http://www.idsa.in/idsacomments/urug...maharaj_200617

    Saludos

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