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Thread: Siria : ¿ Siguiendo los pasos de Libia ?

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    Hola ChrisBV. ...

    Ahí Lo dice clarito:

    Resolución para combatir al grupo terrorista llamado estado islamico,Al queda y Al Nusra ( que son lo mismo) y sobre territorios ocupado por estos.Pero no sobre territorio sirio o de tropas sirías propiamente tales ..

    La acción de amenaza y ataque a territorio sirio, digamos libre de esos grupos terroristas ,es ilegal.

    Como también es altamente contradictorio apoyar a estados que directamente o indirectamente financian y apoyan a terroristas :Arabia Saudita y Qatar.....Y para que apoyan de distintas formas Hasta apoyo de fuego a terroristas moderados como la filial Siria de Alqaeda....Israel esta entre los acusados.

    Contradictorios nivel OTAN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisBV View Post
    Es cierto, esta intervención es super ilegal y unilateral grenga mala:



    FUENTE




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    Adoptada de forma unánime (15 votos a favor, 0 en contra, 0 abstenciones) por los miembros del Consejo de Seguridad Permanente (China, Francia, Rusia, USA, UK) y Transitorios (Angola, Chad, Chile, Jordania, Lituania, Malasia, Nueva Zelanda, Nigeria, España y Venezuela).



    Protesto, señor juez.

    Saludos
    Seria interesante saber que significa " de acuerdo al Derecho Internacional...", ya que se sabe que el único país que tiene la autorización expresa para operar y asentarse en territorio Sirio es Rusia.
    A estas alturas del siglo XXI pensar y creerse el cuento de los USA Boys son los defensores de la Democracia y Contra el Terrorismo es de fanáticos, un Estado condenado como Qatar por apoyar actos terroristas por sus propios vecinos árabes, es apoyado por EEUU y encima acabn de cerrar contrato para venta de aviones!!
    saludos,
    Hay hombres que luchan un día y son buenos; hay otros que luchan un año y son mejores; hay otros que luchan muchos años y son muy buenos. Pero están los que luchan toda la vida y esos son imprescindibles. Bertolt Brecht

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    Saludos cordiales, operación siria impensada años atras.



    No point asking when it is, no point asking who's to go, no point asking what's the game
    no point asking who's to blame. Die with your boots on
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    Saludos estimados; Les envío esta nota:

    Israel Attacked Chemical Weapons Plant in Syria, Local Reports Claim
    Syria confirms: Israel targeted military facility, killing two ■ Incident comes amid massive Israeli anti-Hezbollah drill, weeks after outgoing air force chief admits Israel attacks weapons convoys

    Jack Khoury, Gili Cohen
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    The Israeli military struck Thursday a chemical arms plant in in Syria, foreign media reports claimed. The Syrian army general command confirmed in a statement the attack on what they called a military facility, and said that two people were killed and extensive damage was caused. Israel refused to comment on the reports.

    A Syrian military statement said that at 2:40 A.M. Israeli warplanes struck the site from within Lebanese airspace. In a statement, the Syrian army said the Israeli warplanes fired several missiles while in Lebanese air space, and warned of the "dangerous repercussions of such hostile acts on the security and stability of the region."
    Masyaf
    Syrian opposition members claimed that four Israeli warplanes were involved in the strike, which would be the first since a ceasefire was reached between the Assad regime and Syrian rebels in July.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHESTER View Post
    Saludos estimados; Les envío esta nota:

    Israel Attacked Chemical Weapons Plant in Syria, Local Reports Claim
    Syria confirms: Israel targeted military facility, killing two ■ Incident comes amid massive Israeli anti-Hezbollah drill, weeks after outgoing air force chief admits Israel attacks weapons convoys

    Jack Khoury, Gili Cohen
    14:14
    The Israeli military struck Thursday a chemical arms plant in in Syria, foreign media reports claimed. The Syrian army general command confirmed in a statement the attack on what they called a military facility, and said that two people were killed and extensive damage was caused. Israel refused to comment on the reports.

    A Syrian military statement said that at 2:40 A.M. Israeli warplanes struck the site from within Lebanese airspace. In a statement, the Syrian army said the Israeli warplanes fired several missiles while in Lebanese air space, and warned of the "dangerous repercussions of such hostile acts on the security and stability of the region."
    Masyaf
    Syrian opposition members claimed that four Israeli warplanes were involved in the strike, which would be the first since a ceasefire was reached between the Assad regime and Syrian rebels in July.
    Saludos Chester. La noticia ya está apareciendo en otros medios:

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/...kills-49671917

    Un punto muy interesante:

    In October 2016, Russia deployed a battery of S-300 air defense missile systems to protect a Russian navy facility in the Syrian port of Tartus and Russian navy ships in the area. Moscow also has long-range S-400 missile defense systems and an array of other surface-to-air missiles at the Hemeimeem air base in Syria's coastal province of Latakia, about 70 kilometers (43 miles) from Thursday's strike location.
    Efectivamente, el blanco alcanzado se encontraría a 50 kilómetros del puerto de Tartus (S-300V4, la variante de Fuerzas de Tierra) y 70 - 80 km de la base de Hemeimeem en Latakia (S-400, operado por las Fuerzas Aeroespaciales).

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=distan...FORM=QBRE&sp=1

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=distan...99299A8F463C5E

    (Correcto, esas son distancias manejando. La distancia en línea recta -digamos, "a vuelo de SAM"- es en todo caso menor)

    Esto se añade al antecedente de los ataques de Tomahawk de hace un par de meses. Sea por deficiencias técnicas o por indecision política, las fuerzas rusas parecen incapaces (o no están dispuestas) a proteger a sus aliados de turno.

    La otra pregunta es: habrán estado involucrados los F-35I? Solo nos queda especular.
    Last edited by Goliath; 07-09-2017 at 03:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goliath View Post
    Efectivamente, el blanco alcanzado se encontraría a 50 kilómetros del puerto de Tartus (S-300V4, la variante de Fuerzas de Tierra) y 70 - 80 km de la base de Hemeimeem en Latakia (S-400, operado por las Fuerzas Aeroespaciales).
    No solamente eso, Rusia adicionalmente tiene una batería Pantsir S1 desplegada en la zona de Masyaf (involucrada en el derribo de un UAV Heron el pasado 6 de julio) que los israelíes también habrían usado como papel higiénico.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goliath
    Esto se añade al antecedente de los ataques de Tomahawk de hace un par de meses. Sea por deficiencias técnicas o por indecision política, las fuerzas rusas parecen incapaces (o no están dispuestas) a proteger a sus aliados de turno.
    No sería la primera vez que fuerzas en teatro burlan las defensas combinadas del "100% cerrado y controlado espacio aéreo sirio"; previamente (16-17 de marzo) se confirmó un ataque israelí en las proximidades de Palmyra, muy dentro de la cobertura del S400 desplegado en Latakia, pero también de una batería S200 siria que respondió lanzando varios misiles, sin éxito para los defensores (Israel confirmó luego que uno de ellos fue derribado por un interceptor Arrow 2, seguramente luego de errar el blanco y pasar a una trayectoria puramente balística).

    Quote Originally Posted by Goliath
    La otra pregunta es: habrán estado involucrados los F-35I? Solo nos queda especular.
    Es posible. Aunque me inclino a pensar que hayan utilizado algún tipo de misil crucero (Popeye o Delilah), lanzado desde espacio aéreo libanés por aviones F-15I o F-16I.

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    Impacto lateral de un ATGM a un T62 sirio.

    saludos
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    Salió el detalle del derribo del Su22 SyAF de boca de los pilotos participantes, incluyendo el autor del derribo, Lt Cmdr Michael "Mob" Tremel:

    The group of four strike fighters entered the close air support stack (CAS stack) overhead the JTAC and waited for any requests for strikes when a Russian Su-27 showed up and began loitering high overhead.

    Mob, who was having issues with his targeting pod, was assigned to keep tabs on the circling Russian fighter while the other pilots continued with their CAS mission. He turned the Super Hornet's master mode to air-to-air and began tracking the Su-27 and searching the skies around the area for other aircraft.

    Then another radar track appeared—a fast moving aircraft coming from the south directly towards him. Although Mob figured it was probably a Syrian aircraft, he moved to intercept the target and eventually made a visual identification on what turned out to be a Syrian Air Force Su-22 Fitter swing-wing attack jet—the same type of aircraft used to deliver the gas attack that led to the Tomahawk missile strike a few months earlier.

    After identifying the Su-22, Mob got on the radio with an airborne command and control post, an E-3 Sentry, and had them broadcast warnings repeatedly over guard frequency to the Syrian jet. Those radio calls did not result in a change of course by the Syrian pilot. Then Mob "thumped" the Su-22 three times—flying close over the jet's canopy and popping flares out in front of it before breaking off—to warn him away. That didn't work either.

    By then the Su-22 was in striking distance of friendly forces and it began to dive, releasing its weapons in the process, before making a climb out after the attack. Based on the rules of engagement that were briefed to the naval aviators, Mob locked the Su-22 up from behind with an AIM-9X Sidewinder and fired.

    The missile zipped off the Hornet's wing rail trailing smoke but quickly disappeared. It wasn't clear why the missile failed to track the Su-22 or where it had gone. Mob quickly selected an AIM-120 AMRAAM and fired once again. He noted how long it took for the missile to fire off the Super Hornet's "cheek" station located along the outer edges of its air intakes.

    Regardless, the missile tracked the Fitter flying just a short distance away and exploded on its backside, pitching it violently to the right and downward. The pilot was clearly seen ejecting from the doomed swing-wing attack jet.

    The ejection seat passed very close down the right sight of Mob's canopy. He noted how live-fire training helped him during the engagement because he knew what to expect and quickly rolled away from the explosion instead of flying through it.

    The Syrian pilot's chute blossomed, it was white, green, and orange in color and his emergency transmitter beacon began going off over the radio.

    By now Mob and his wingmen found themselves low down and deep inside an enemy air defenses engagement zone. With the entire power structure over Syria potentially shattered, and the Russian Flanker still orbiting overhead, Mob jettisoned his air-to-ground ordnance. With things having become somewhat quiet on the ground and considering one of the friendly jets above just shot down a hostile fighter, the JTAC released the division of jets and they began to cautiously egress out of the area.
    VER VIDEO

    FUENTE

    Resulta que también detectaron un Flanker ruso orbitando la zona como para que "la cosa se pusiera interesante" (guiño guiño) como diría cierto forista. No se puso (snif snif) y el Su22 terminó derribado.

    Saludos
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