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    Sukhois shift the balance of power in the Asia-Pacific...

    The Australians are attempting to take evasive action against the threat posed by the Sukhoi Flanker in Southeast Asia.



    Gregory Clark, a former Australian diplomat, says about his countrymen, “They prefer to keep Asia and its peoples at a distance.”

    Distance and the lack of long-range aircraft in the Southeast Asian air forces have for decades offered a sense of security to the Australians.

    But today that security is being eroded by the arrival of super-maneuverable aircraft like the Sukhoi 27 Flanker and Sukhoi 30 Flanker C.

    These combat jets have been inducted in large numbers in the air forces of China, Indonesia, Malaysia and Vietnam.

    The arrival of the Sukhois has evened the odds in the Asia Pacific theatre. Australian pilots, who considered themselves top guns flying their F-18 Hornet and F-111 Aardvark fighter bombers, now are having to faceoff with the Flankers that are superior in almost every aspect.

    According to Air Power Australia, “The acquisition of Russian designed Sukhoi Su-27SK and Su-30MK series fighters by most regional nations now presents an environment where the F/A-18A/B/F is outclassed in all key performance parameters by widely available fighters.”

    Australia’s Defence Today magazine says, “From a strategic analysis perspective the acquisition of such advanced weapons by marginally stable nations such as Indonesia or other regional players should be of genuine concern – and this is aside from the staggering numbers being purchased by China.

    The threat equation (to Australia) is predicated on the presence of both capability and intent but, historically, the capability dimension has always been lacking – whatever regional intent toward Australia there may have been.

    However, this level of capability is changing with plans to buy advanced aircraft and weapons.”

    It adds, “The arrival of long range weapons like the Sukhoi and its suite of modern missiles coincide with important and strategic economic developments in Australia’s north, presenting an entirely new strategic context to consider.”
    Long legs

    While the Flanker’s maneuverability – especially the Pugachev Cobra move – is legendary, it is the range of over 3000 km which gives the aircraft a decisive edge in aerial combat.

    This allows it to perform repeated probes and U-turns – a Cold War Russian tactic – that can leave its opponent disoriented and vulnerable in a dogfight. Chasing the Flanker would be one of the most hazardous jobs in aviation.

    In fact, the Flanker’s incredible range can easily be doubled by aerial refuelling and it is conceivable that Indonesia, which is Australia’s No.1 bugbear, would one day acquire tanker aircraft.

    In the interim, the Indonesians pilots can extend their range through buddy refuelling, where half their Flanker fleet refuels the other half.

    Missile threat

    The Flankers are known to have 12 hard points – more than any other aircraft. This feature allows it to literally pack a lethal punch – an entire arsenal of missiles and smart bombs.

    The Russian weapons bureaus have developed a vast armada of air-to-air and air-to-surface missiles – including cruise – that in some cases have no equivalent in NATO armouries.

    The 94 Hornets in Australia’s air force are extremely vulnerable against the Flanker’s much superior beyond visual range missiles.

    The Australians are also worried about the vulnerability of the gas platforms and industrial assets on their eastern seaboard. Defence Today elaborates:

    “From a weapon’s standpoint, a single supersonic Raduga 3M-82/Kh-41 Sunburn, MBRPA 3M-55/Kh-61 Yakhont or subsonic Novator 3M-54E1 Alfa anti-shipping cruise missile could effectively cripple if not destroy any of these large facilities in a single strike.

    These missiles were designed to cut small warships in half and inflict critical damage on large warships – and the sad history of industrial accidents and fires in petrochemical plants and offshore rigs suggests that even a single hit would be likely to start uncontrollable fires.”
    US carriers – a big fat target

    The arrival of the Flankers in the Asia Pacific has also increased the vulnerability of the United States’ nuclear powered aircraft carriers.

    The American military has wargamed situations where these massive CVNs go into battle against Sukhois armed with anti-ship cruise missiles, and the missiles have won every single time.

    In the past these nuclear powered carriers, protected by a ring of support ships and AWAC aircraft, and of course their own fighter jets, were able to sail into any troublespot without fear. That’s history.

    Today, any American carrier that attempts to come close to, say, China’s shores would be targeted by Flankers based on land, and firing their missiles from safe distances.

    As Defence Today quips, “The attackers then fly home and watch CNN for bomb damage assessment.”

    Basically, the Flanker may have ended the era of American gunboat diplomacy.

    Pilot skill

    Australia’s air force is not big but it considers itself well-trained and butch, with pilots who like to think they are a bit like Maverick of Top Gun.

    They train according to Western standards and admittedly this can be a decisive factor in war. However, pilot skill, like modern hardware, can be imported too.

    India’s pilots, who are known to be among the world’s best, are now training Malaysia’s air force. The Chinese and the Indonesians too will find air aces to train their pilots.
    F-35: Australia scoots for stealth

    There is a reason why the Indian Air Force describes the Su-30 MKIs as its "Air Dominance Fighter".

    The aircraft is a generation ahead of any other aircraft – bar the stealth types – in the skies.

    The MKI version is actually superior to the Russian Air Force's own Flankers, which is a result of Russia's policy to provide its trusted customers with export versions that are half a generation ahead of its own base models.

    As the realisation dawned on them that the Flanker had degraded their defensive and offensive capabilities, the Australians decided to go for the stealth option and placed an order for 100 units of the F-35 fighter.

    How will that decision impact the Flankers? Now, that’s an entirely different story.

    Canberra needs a new strategy

    Paul Keating, a former Australian prime minister, once said that Asia is a place to fly over en route to Europe. Robert Gordon Menzies, another Aussie premier, said about Southeast Asia and the South Pacific:

    “The risks in this corner of the world have increased.” That was at the height of the Vietnam War.

    Clearly, Down Under they have learned nothing about mending fences.

    The country, which considers itself America’s local sheriff, has continued to distance itself from its emerging Asian neighbours. In effect, Australia has painted itself into a corner.
    Fuente: http://indrus.in/blogs/2013/03/05/su...fic_22679.html
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    El pentagono aprobo la venta de los Growlers a Australia...
    Ahora solo depende de Australia comprarlos.

    http://www.stltoday.com/business/loc...f17ef7150.html
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    RAAF Classifies Growlers As Support Aircraft...



    Is an electronic attack aircraft a combat aircraft? Not according to the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF), which is classifying its forthcoming squadron of Boeing EA-18G Growlers as a support force distinct from its air combat units.

    Its move is raising the possibility that the 12 electronic attack aircraft will add to its fast-jet fleet instead of substituting for part of it—although the move may not persuade the government to pay for more fast jets than it has planned.

    The defense department, assessing the possibility of buying a second batch of 24 Boeing Super Hornets, is considering the type in all three of its versions, says a spokeswoman:

    the F/A-18E single-seater, F/A-18F two-seater and the EA-18G two-seat electronic attack configuration. A senior air force officer says -Es are unlikely to be acquired, however.

    The U.S. Joint Strike Fighter Program Office, meanwhile, is assuring Australia that it can rely on achieving initial operational capability with the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning in 2020. That implies that more Super Hornets will not be needed.

    The F-35 software set due for delivery to Australia and other non-U.S. buyers will by 2020 have been in service for five years with the U.S. Marine Corps, project chief Lt. Gen. Christopher Bogdan said at the Australian International Airshow near here late last month. So Australia should not have great concerns.

    The country wants to introduce F-35s into service in 2018, says Lockheed Martin F-35 executive Stephen O'Bryan, adding that by then 400 of the aircraft should have been delivered.

    The Australian authorities must still worry that F-35 deliveries will not occur in time to replace 71 F/A-18A/B Hornets that will run out of life around 2020.

    Canberra last decade adopted a plan to order about 100 fighters to replace the Hornets and two squadrons of F-111 strike bombers that were usually kept at an operational strength of 24, but were retired in 2010.

    Until last year, all 100 new aircraft were supposed to be F-35s; 24 Super Hornets ordered as stop-gap F-111 replacements in 2007 had been earmarked for replacement by the last batch of F-35s.

    The situation is now quite uncertain because of decisions last year to keep the 24 Super Hornets, convert 12 of them to Growler configuration and consider ordering another 24 Super Hornets while awaiting F-35s.

    Amid those changes, however, there has been no hint that the government wants to pay for more than 100 aircraft.

    Australia is committed to buying 14 F-35s. The two actually on order will be delivered next year, says O'Bryan. Until last year's decision to look at more Super Hornets, the country intended to buy at least 72 more F-35s under Phases 2A and 2B of the program, Air 6000, between mid-2014 and mid-2016.

    Now, “all options, including possible timing changes to Air 6000 Phase 2A/B, are being considered by [the department] as part of its submission to [the] government,” says the spokeswoman.

    “Any decision to adjust the schedule will be determined by [the] government.”

    One factor must be the RAAF's argument that EA-18Gs are support, not combat, aircraft. “While they do attack [electronically], that is a fraction of their role and they cannot do all of the roles of a strike fighter,” says the senior officer.

    The Growlers will spend much of their time collecting electronic intelligence, not attacking, the officer says.

    Using them for conventional attacks would be beyond the training of their crews, specialists in the techniques of electronic warfare.

    If Growlers are not combat aircraft, then the air force can argue that, despite their induction, it still needs 100 fighters—a mix of Super Hornets and Lightnings, at least at first.

    The government has made no comment on that possibility, and it is struggling to get its budget back into surplus.

    Twelve of the original batch of Super Hornets were built with the wiring needed to turn them into Growlers, but the department's comments reveal that the EA-18Gs, due to achieve initial operational capability in 2018, may be newly built as part of the second batch.

    The RAAF remains keen to procure 100 F-35s, since it sees the type as the most advanced available. Service and industry officials say the air force could consolidate on one type by buying a final batch of the stealthy Lockheed Martin fighters as late as the 2030s, when the Super Hornets might be sufficiently worn out to justify retirement—especially if the only Super Hornets that will need replacing are those that began operations in 2010.

    Prolonged Growler service need not be an obstacle to early Super Hornet retirement.

    A small fleet of 12 Growlers might not be so hard to support, the same officials say, since Australia will in any case rely heavily on the U.S. Navy to keep the aircraft going.

    Regardless of the Super Hornet force, Growler training will be done separately, in the U.S.

    If 24 aircraft are wired for Growler configuration, then rotation in and out of storage would offer a longer service life.

    Australia will not use its Growlers in exactly the same way as the U.S. Navy does, says the senior officer, declining to give details except to note that the RAAF will not fly the same types available to U.S. electronic attack units.

    F/A-18Es in any second Super Hornet batch are unlikely because it would be cheaper and more flexible to operate only two-seaters, says the senior officer.

    If a second crewmember is not needed, the Australian Super Hornets will fly with one seat empty.
    Fuente: http://www.aviationweek.com/Article....558562.xml&p=2
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    Australia to buy 12 Boeing jets as hedge against F-35 “risk”

    Posted Friday, May. 03, 2013

    CANBERRA, Australia — Australia said Friday that it will buy 12 Boeing EA-18G Growler aircraft because it can’t risk delivery delays in their replacement, Lockheed Martin’s F-35 joint strike fighter.
    The government announced last year that its air force will equip 12 of Australia’s F/A-18 Super Hornet jet fighters with Growler radar-jamming equipment and other gear.
    But the reviewed defense strategy released Friday said the government now plans to buy 12 new Growlers and to keep Australia’s existing 24 Super Hornets as they are. Australia will be the only country other than the United States to operate Growlers, which are to be replaced eventually by F-35s.
    “We’ve made decisions to protect our own air combat capability with the previous acquisitions of Super Hornets and now additional Growlers,” Defense Minister Stephen Smith told reporters.
    “It is quite clearly the case on our one analysis but also on U.S. analysis that the joint strike fighter project … has improved, but there are still risks associated with that and we’re not prepared to … take the risk of a gap in our air combat capability or superiority,” he added.
    The F-35 is made by Lockheed Martin in west Fort Worth.
    Australia has not said when the new Growlers will be delivered. Smith said they will cost around $1.5 billion.
    Australia plans to buy 14 F-35s for $3.2 billion and is contracted to buy two, which will be delivered in 2014 and 2015.
    The government announced last year that it was pushing back delivery of most F-35s by two years to 2019 as a cost-cutting measure.
    The F-35s will replace the Growlers and Super Hornets, which are expected to be retired around 2030. Smith said the first of three F-35 squadrons are scheduled to be delivered from 2020.
    Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/05...#storylink=cpy
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    Finalmente tal y como era de esperarse, se concreto. Bien por los aussies...

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    Contentos con el nuevo LHD y los nuevos AWD


    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1226639639652

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    125 palos por Growler..
    pero si el architerco dice que cuestan 60 palos nuevecitos...

    de donde sale tal diferencia? exijo una explicacion! PLOP!!!
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    Muestra un solo post donde yo diga que el GROWLER cuesta 60 palos nuevecito.

    Ahora que si no sabes cual es la diferencia entre un Growler y un Super Hornet ese es tu problema, a menos claro, que estes Trolleando.
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    10 F-16 de Alaska fueron a Australia para enfrentarse en ejercicios aereos con los Super Hornets Australianos.
    Los F-16 hicieron las veces de agresores.
    Como comenta el Australiano del video, prohibido equivocarse.

    http://globalaviationreport.wordpres...-video-report/


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