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  • #11
    Originalmente publicado por HernanSCL Ver Mensaje

    8. Chile has a very tough, often cruel army that would put the Czech, Polish and Hungarian armies to shame. Remember Gen. Augusto Pinochet? They don't come any nastier. But try to name one Hungarian general. Hungarian cooks, maybe. Zsa Zsa Gabor, sure. But Hungary hasn't won a war since the 16th century. Also, since one purpose of expanding NATO is to sell the new members U.S. arms, Chile is perfect. It's dying to buy F-16's, and unlike the Central Europeans it can actually pay for them.
    Bastante ignorante este tipo por decir lo menos, comparar una dictadura bananera con naciones europeas que han pasado por las guerras mas cruentas de la historia de la humanidad ofende.

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    • #12
      Exelente aporte Hernan y pensar que a otros ni los toman en cuenta

      Originalmente publicado por HernanSCL Ver Mensaje
      De hecho si... y de bastante buena fuente es ese documento.

      Esa nota de la OTAN y sus próximos en el sur creo que viene de aquí...

      http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=13788

      Y usan como base ese documento emanado por ese Think Tank del Partido Demócrata Estadounidense que amablemente nos acercas.

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      y aquí una -añeja- Columna de Thomas Friedman del New York Times del Foreing Affairs titulada:

      Foreign Affairs
      Chile, First and Forever
      By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

      With only two weeks to go before the Madrid NATO summit meeting, the U.S. and its NATO allies are still arguing over which countries to add to NATO. The reason they're still arguing is because there are no clear criteria over who should be let in, because there is no clear strategy for how to expand NATO, because the Clinton team has no clear idea what it wants NATO to become. When you don't know where you are going, any road (or new member) will get you there. So the U.S. favors Poland, Hungary and the Czechs, while the Europeans also want Romania and Slovenia. Since everyone is pushing his favorite country, as if NATO were a book club, I would like to propose mine: Chile. You laugh, but here are 10 reasons Chile is the best candidate for an expanded NATO.

      1. Chile is long, very long, and NATO doesn't have any long countries. All the other proposed new NATO members are short and fat, like dumplings. How about a thin country for once?

      2. Since the main reason the Clintonites chose Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic is because each has a strong ethnic voting bloc in the U.S., why not bring Chile in and get the whole Hispanic vote behind NATO expansion?

      3. Bringing Chile into NATO would bring diversity to the alliance, which is now dominated by pasty-faced white Europeans. A little NATO diversity fits nicely with the Clinton domestic agenda, and without a NATO that looks like America, there's no way Congress will foot its bills forever.

      4. The other reason Poles, Hungarians and Czechs are being brought into NATO is because the European Union won't let them into its free-trade club. (The E.U. doesn't want Polish workers taking French jobs.) Well, we've told Chile that it can't be in Nafta because Congress is afraid Chileans will take U.S. jobs. If Chile can't be in Nafta, then it too deserves NATO membership as a consolation prize. This is especially true since the Clintonites keep saying NATO membership is crucial for helping to consolidate free-market reform in Central Europe. Surely, if it is crucial to consolidate such reform in Central Europe, it is even more crucial to do it in our own hemisphere.

      5. Chile, unlike Poland, Hungary or the Czech Republic, actually shares a border with Russia. Check it out. The Russian slice of Antarctica is right next to the southern tip of Chile. Russian Antarctica is the soft underbelly of Russia.

      6. Chile is one of the few countries in the world that not only qualify for NATO but also meet the Maastricht criteria for membership in the new single European currency. Maastricht requires E.U. countries to have a deficit-to-G.D.P. ratio below 3 percent. Chile has a deficit-to-G.D.P. ratio of 0 (it actually has a surplus) -- better than Poland, Hungary or the Czechs. Chile could be the bridge between NATO and the European Union.

      7. Chile is just across the ocean from China. That could give NATO a whole new front, and since the Clintonites think NATO has to be expanded and take on new missions in order to survive, what could be a more important mission than deterring China? And how better to do it than with the longest country in the world?

      8. Chile has a very tough, often cruel army that would put the Czech, Polish and Hungarian armies to shame. Remember Gen. Augusto Pinochet? They don't come any nastier. But try to name one Hungarian general. Hungarian cooks, maybe. Zsa Zsa Gabor, sure. But Hungary hasn't won a war since the 16th century. Also, since one purpose of expanding NATO is to sell the new members U.S. arms, Chile is perfect. It's dying to buy F-16's, and unlike the Central Europeans it can actually pay for them.

      9. Chile is near Cuba, which, unlike Russia, is still a real Communist country that shoots down civilian planes and has a May Day parade. True, Fidel Castro is only a threat to his own people, but that still makes him a bigger threat than anything Poland, Hungary or the Czechs now face on their Eastern front.

      10. Chile grows fruit during Europe's winter. What a morale booster for NATO troops! They would eat better than ever, and scurvy would never again be a problem for NATO's Atlantic command. Try to find fresh peaches in Poland in December.

      Need I say more? Chile Ahora! Primero Chile! Chile in NATO forever!


      http://www.nytimes.com/1997/06/26/op...d-forever.html

      Comentario: bueno, es un entusiasta columnista del NY Times que da 10 razones para que Chile entre a la NATO. Entretenido -y hasta gracioso- lo que dice ... ¿que opinan uds?.

      PD: Thomas Loren Friedman ( 20 de julio de 1953 ) es un periodista estadounidense, escritor y tres veces ganador del Premio Pulitzer. Es columnista del periódico The New York Times, en el que comenzó a trabajar como reportero en 1981, tras haber estudiado en El Cairo, Oxford, Boston y Beirut. Sus libros tratan temas tan diversos como la globalización (La tierra es plana), la situación política en Medio Oriente (From Beirut to Jerusalem), pasando por los atentados del 11 de septiembre (Longitudes and Attitudes).

      Saludos

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      • #13
        Originalmente publicado por MAUS Ver Mensaje
        Bastante ignorante este tipo por decir lo menos, comparar una dictadura bananera con naciones europeas que han pasado por las guerras mas cruentas de la historia de la humanidad ofende.
        Amigo MAUS, está bien que conozcas a Chile por referencia de terceros...pero te recuerdo que a principios del siglo 20 aún había esclavitud en países como Suecia...

        Saludos.
        Chile, fértil provincia y señalada, de la región antártica famosa, que no ha sido por rey jamás regida, ni sus tierras y dominios sometida!!!.

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        • #14
          ¡Cuidado!!!, ser parte de la OTAN conlleva estar en la mira de potencias como China o Rusia.

          Ahora que seguir estandarizándose a las normas OTAN, les va excelentemente bien.

          Saludos
          Zhukov siempre quiere más soldados, más piezas de artillería, más armas de fuego. También más aviones. Jamás tiene suficiente. Pero nunca ha perdido una batalla. J. Stalin.

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          • #15
            Exactamente....

            Que linda forma de cambiar de estatus, si hasta los rivales serían "otra cosa"...

            Eso sería "arrimarse a buen harbol".

            Saludos,
            Chile, fértil provincia y señalada, de la región antártica famosa, que no ha sido por rey jamás regida, ni sus tierras y dominios sometida!!!.

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