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Originalmente publicado por Evil_MorgothVer Mensaje
una consulta Incoming...¿necesariamente el Invincible debe tener Harriers embarcados?¿existe algun otro avion que haga el mismo trabajo a menor costo?
saludos
pd: concuerdo que lo caro es el ala embarcada y la operacion del buque, no la plataforma.
La limitante del "Invincible" (y los demas portaviones de su clase) es su plataforma de despegue-aterrizaje para sus naves embarcadas. El tipo "Sky-Jump" se diseño ex-profeso para aviones de despeje-aterrizaje corto o vertical, tipo VSTOL, la curva hacia arriba al final de la misma ayuda a los "Harriers" a elevarse en el ultimo momento de su corta carrera de despegue, cuando salen "cargados" a misiones de ataque. Ademas, tampoco cuenta con sistemas de catapultas como los usados en los portaviones Nimitz, por lo que un avion de despegue horizontal, como el F/A-18, el Mig29K, o los tipo AWACS embarcados (EC-3) no podrian ser utilizados en este tipo de plataforma. En ese aspecto, solo podrian usarse los ya mencionados Harriers y los F-35.
Me temo que si hablamos de aviones no....y el F-35B ya anda por los 115 US$ mill, pero una plataforma con cubierta corrida utilizada como portahelicopteros, utilizando helos pesados en tareas ASuW y AEW y helos medios en ASW podria tener gran utilidad en tiempos de guerra...en tiempos de paz como unidad de apoyo a catastrofes naturales seria importantisima.
Un saludo
Si Incoming, en vista del prohibitivo precio de los F-35, esa seria la opcion mas razonable y provechosa, salvo mejor opinion.
sería un mal negocio adquirir un Invincible y utilizarlo como Porta Helos? ¿o saldria mas barato Construir y embarcar uno en Chile?
saludos
Algunos piensan que somos mejores que el vecino, que somos más fuertes,audaces, inteligentes, avanzados, desarrollados y que gracias a nuestra capacidad SUPREMA, INSUPERABLE, RADICAL, DIVINA, ILUSTRE, IMPARABLE nos acercamos al primer mundo....
dados estos datos, urjo a mis compatriotas a orar por nuestro salvador y el que hizo todo nuestro avance posible...
El problerma no es el casco, si no los sistemas asociados al mismo, como la electronica, el grupo propulsor, los sistemas de armas y navegacion del mismo, no creo que tengan ustedes problemas de construir el casco, el problema sera despues cuando tengas que instalar los sistemas asociados.
saludos
la experiencia sólo sirve si de ella se obtienen las conclusiones adecuadas
De la web de la RN, interesantes noticias (julio de este año) respecto al futuro de estas naves:
MOD Signs £3 Billion Contracts For Aircraft Carriers
The MOD today signed contracts with industry to build the two future aircraft carriers. The contracts, worth in the region of £3 billion, were signed with the newly-formed UK maritime Joint Venture, BVT Surface Fleet, and the Aircraft Carrier Alliance onboard HMS Ark Royal, one of the Royal Navy’s existing aircraft carriers and currently the Fleet Flagship.
Contracts authorised today encompass work worth:
- £1,325M for the construction of giant sections of both ships by BVT Surface Fleet at Govan on the Clyde and Portsmouth;
- £300M for the construction of giant sections of the ships at the BAE Systems yard at Barrow-in-Furness;
-£675M for the bow section and final assembly and completion of the ships by Babcock Marine, with assembly taking place at Rosyth;
-£425M for design and engineering for Thales UK; and
- £275M for design and supply of Mission Systems for BAE Systems Integrated Systems Technologies (Insyte).
Defence Secretary, Des Browne, said:
“This is a historic day for everyone in defence. The two aircraft carriers will provide our forces with the world-class capabilities they will need over the coming decades. They will support peace-keeping and conflict prevention, as well as our strategic operational priorities.
“Today’s contract signing seals the future for thousands of jobs, and ensures that we will have a Royal Navy fit for the 21st century.”
Baroness Taylor, Minister for Defence Equipment and Support, said:
“This is truly a national project, involving companies from the Clyde to the Solent. Construction work will create or sustain around 10,000 UK jobs at the peak of production.
I am delighted that we have signed the contracts for manufacture today and I look forward to first cutting of steel for this exciting project later this year.”
The future aircraft carriers, to be named HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince Of Wales, will be the biggest and most powerful surface warships ever constructed in the UK. They will provide our forces with world-class capabilities, supporting peace-keeping, conflict prevention and our strategic operational priorities. They will be a highly versatile and potent joint defence asset, able to meet the widest range of tasks.
First Sea Lord, Admiral Sir Jonathon Band, said:
“I am delighted with today’s news that the contract for the two new aircraft carriers, to be named HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince Of Wales, has been agreed and signed. These ships, with their embarked aircraft, will provide the UK with a potent and powerful aircraft carrier force that will deliver air power in support of the full range of future operations at sea, in the air and on land.”
Chief of the Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Sir Glenn Torpy, said:
“Today’s contract signature marks an important step forward in the Carrier Strike programme. These ships will provide additional options for projecting offensive air power at a time and place of our choosing, and I very much look forward to the arrival of both the carriers and the extremely capable Joint Combat Aircraft on the frontline”.
Alan Johnston, CEO of BVT Surface Fleet, said:
“This is an important announcement for BVT and for the UK maritime industry at large, guaranteeing work for years to come across the country.
“We are looking forward to delivering these very important ships to the Fleet in the next decade and intend to begin construction work later this year.”
Once the carriers enter service in 2014 and 2016 respectively, they are expected to remain in the fleet for at least thirty years
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